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Very learned and long Discussion on the Origin of India and her Races
Were the Aryans ( if they really existed ) conquerors or just immigrants ?
Can linguistics prove that there was an Aryan Invasion bringing European Culture ?
By Rekha I Nambiar - August 25, 2002
History of India - The Aryan Invasion: Fact or Fallacy
Some excerpts :
The first discovery of buried townships in Harappa and Mohenjodaro was in 1922. Since then thousands of settlements have been excavated by archaeologists that stretch across the sub-continent along the banks of what used to be the Saraswati river. Archaeological evidence has proven that a series of floods around the second millenium BC brought to an end the Harrapan civilization, that stretched along the mighty Saraswati river. This river, is the holy river mentioned in the Vedas and not the Ganga. The Ganga is mentioned only once in the Rig Veda, while its sister Saraswati, has numerous verses testifying to its glory. All the excavations have revealed that the settlements of this civilization are along the banks of the Saraswati, accounting for its fame and glory in the Vedic texts. Excavation of Harappan sites in Dhaulavira in Gujarat to Ropar in Punjab reveal abandoned towns and testify to cultural practices that date well before 3000 BC.
The Dhaulavira region in Kacchh (Gujarat), which is now a stretch of desert was apparently a major port city, dating well before 3000 BC. Its proximity to the sea, and what was the delta of the Saraswati river would account for the marble pillars excavated there. These pillars, a gateway to the mainland, are mentioned in the Rig Veda. And since the Saraswati dried up long before 1500 BC it would not explain why it is glorified in the literature of the nomads who are claimed to have conquered this land post 1500 BC.
Kunal, in what is now Haryana, was again in the Saraswati region and is dated to pre-Harrapan times, which would justify that the civilization was highly developed long before 3000 BC. The Saraswati-Drishadvati region seems to have been the main focal point of this civilization. Rakhigarhi, on the Drishadvati has been found to much larger than the remains found at Harappa or Mohenjodaro. Archaeological remains have been found of altars, Harappan script and crafts. These are described in detail in the Vedas and would associate this literature with that civilization.
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If any single archaeological discovery has shattered AIT, it is the discovery of this submerged city off the coast of Gujarat. It proves beyond doubt that the events of the Mahabharata and the Ramayana are historical facts and not the ramblings of an imaginative poet! There are several references to Dwarka being swallowed by the ocean in the Mahabharata and Krishna’s warning to the residents of this city prior to its submersion. The remains have been dated between 3000 and 1500 BC, which sends the Aryan Invasion theory flying out of the historical window.
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The linguistic diversity on the Indian sub-continent is cited as a basis for the invasion theory. That language has more to do with culture than race is historically evident. Vedic culture is the main reason why Sanskrit has a widespread acceptance throughout the Indian sub-continent. And as with many cultures, poetic verse was a powerful and effective medium of communicating ideas and thoughts. Linguistic diversity has little to do with race or even invasions but rather a peculiarity of the human race to develop unique means of communication. Sanskrit exists in its original form, as in the Vedas, only in this part of the world. And since everything written in this language only validates events in this region, and is limited to the geography of the region, it would seem illogical to assume that the language itself was an ‘import’.
The seven holy rivers are all from the Indian sub-continent. The twelve Jyotirlings are all in what is still India. The pilgrimage centers of our culture are within this region. The mountains and valleys, ocean and deserts are still here. The excavations at Harappa indicate that writing existed in this civilization in 4000 BC. Nothing, absolutely nothing, has any reference to any place or people outside of this region. Not in any of the Vedas, Puranas or the Epics.
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If there is evidence of what life was like in pre-Harappan ages that existed in 4000 BC right down to their crafts and measuring instruments, why has nothing been found about this mythical Aryan race.
"It is opposed to their (Hindus) foreign origin, that neither in the Code (of Manu) nor, I believe, in the Vedas, nor in any book that is certainly older than the code, is there any allusion to a prior residence or to a knowledge of more than the name of any country out of India. Even mythology goes no further than the Himalayan chain, in which is fixed the habitation of the gods......" (M S Elphinstone).
By Rekha I Nambiar - August 25, 2002
Very learned and long Discussion on the Origin of India and her Races
Were the Aryans ( if they really existed ) conquerors or just immigrants ?
Can linguistics prove that there was an Aryan Invasion bringing European Culture ?
By Rekha I Nambiar - August 25, 2002
History of India - The Aryan Invasion: Fact or Fallacy
Some excerpts :
The first discovery of buried townships in Harappa and Mohenjodaro was in 1922. Since then thousands of settlements have been excavated by archaeologists that stretch across the sub-continent along the banks of what used to be the Saraswati river. Archaeological evidence has proven that a series of floods around the second millenium BC brought to an end the Harrapan civilization, that stretched along the mighty Saraswati river. This river, is the holy river mentioned in the Vedas and not the Ganga. The Ganga is mentioned only once in the Rig Veda, while its sister Saraswati, has numerous verses testifying to its glory. All the excavations have revealed that the settlements of this civilization are along the banks of the Saraswati, accounting for its fame and glory in the Vedic texts. Excavation of Harappan sites in Dhaulavira in Gujarat to Ropar in Punjab reveal abandoned towns and testify to cultural practices that date well before 3000 BC.
The Dhaulavira region in Kacchh (Gujarat), which is now a stretch of desert was apparently a major port city, dating well before 3000 BC. Its proximity to the sea, and what was the delta of the Saraswati river would account for the marble pillars excavated there. These pillars, a gateway to the mainland, are mentioned in the Rig Veda. And since the Saraswati dried up long before 1500 BC it would not explain why it is glorified in the literature of the nomads who are claimed to have conquered this land post 1500 BC.
Kunal, in what is now Haryana, was again in the Saraswati region and is dated to pre-Harrapan times, which would justify that the civilization was highly developed long before 3000 BC. The Saraswati-Drishadvati region seems to have been the main focal point of this civilization. Rakhigarhi, on the Drishadvati has been found to much larger than the remains found at Harappa or Mohenjodaro. Archaeological remains have been found of altars, Harappan script and crafts. These are described in detail in the Vedas and would associate this literature with that civilization.
.................
If any single archaeological discovery has shattered AIT, it is the discovery of this submerged city off the coast of Gujarat. It proves beyond doubt that the events of the Mahabharata and the Ramayana are historical facts and not the ramblings of an imaginative poet! There are several references to Dwarka being swallowed by the ocean in the Mahabharata and Krishna’s warning to the residents of this city prior to its submersion. The remains have been dated between 3000 and 1500 BC, which sends the Aryan Invasion theory flying out of the historical window.
.......................
The linguistic diversity on the Indian sub-continent is cited as a basis for the invasion theory. That language has more to do with culture than race is historically evident. Vedic culture is the main reason why Sanskrit has a widespread acceptance throughout the Indian sub-continent. And as with many cultures, poetic verse was a powerful and effective medium of communicating ideas and thoughts. Linguistic diversity has little to do with race or even invasions but rather a peculiarity of the human race to develop unique means of communication. Sanskrit exists in its original form, as in the Vedas, only in this part of the world. And since everything written in this language only validates events in this region, and is limited to the geography of the region, it would seem illogical to assume that the language itself was an ‘import’.
The seven holy rivers are all from the Indian sub-continent. The twelve Jyotirlings are all in what is still India. The pilgrimage centers of our culture are within this region. The mountains and valleys, ocean and deserts are still here. The excavations at Harappa indicate that writing existed in this civilization in 4000 BC. Nothing, absolutely nothing, has any reference to any place or people outside of this region. Not in any of the Vedas, Puranas or the Epics.
..................
If there is evidence of what life was like in pre-Harappan ages that existed in 4000 BC right down to their crafts and measuring instruments, why has nothing been found about this mythical Aryan race.
"It is opposed to their (Hindus) foreign origin, that neither in the Code (of Manu) nor, I believe, in the Vedas, nor in any book that is certainly older than the code, is there any allusion to a prior residence or to a knowledge of more than the name of any country out of India. Even mythology goes no further than the Himalayan chain, in which is fixed the habitation of the gods......" (M S Elphinstone).
By Rekha I Nambiar - August 25, 2002
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